The facts of Life
Clinton (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 14:28 GMT

When Jesus spoke about the parable of seed being sown, some falling upon good soil, and some upon
weeds to become choked and crippled, it was a metaphorical representation of this biosphere we
inhabit with the seed being the seed of humans, some of which falls in the right time and the right
place and can grow and function properly, others which fall in the wrong place and time to become
repressed, strangled, choked, constrained, tortured. This seed can never blossom into it's full
awarness, into it's full intended design. That is why it must be aborted, for there is no other
option. Jesus no longer walks the earth. the time of miracles is over, if there was ever a time.

Re: The facts of Life
Clinton (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 14:58 GMT

The physical body is a torture device. It exists to contain and imprison the suffering mind. The
nervous system is a piece of genius which was never meant for this purpose (i.e the purpose of
relaying a negative information feedback loop). The primary information available causes the brain
to atrophy, to shut down, or to go insane over a period of time. This is a natural consequence.

Re: The facts of Life
Graham - from suffolk (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 15:32 GMT

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Re: The facts of Life
Val (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 16:10 GMT

I think them bible (not Jesus) was going on about masturbation, at least that's what we were taught
at (Catholic) school. You sound totally depressed recently love. Write to me at valoccardi@aol.com
or to Harpy if either of us can help..xx Val

Re: The facts of Life
HT (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 16:18 GMT

The thing about bad times is that they do pass - but you don't believe this until they do; the
tension subsides and then you tend to forget how you felt during.
My advice to anyone going through a bad time is at all costs to hang on in there. Don't do anything
foolish. There WILL be light at the end of the tunnel- even if you can't see that far yet.
As a one time suicidal case I know what I'm talking about.

Re: The facts of Life
Pezzer (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 19:12 GMT

The physical body can be a torture device - it can also be the opposite.

Make of it what you will

Re: The facts of Life
h™ (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 20:06 GMT

The mind gives more torture than the body.

Seek not release in chemicals or oblivion.

Accept the love of those around you and give back that love tenfold.

It's the giving of love that eases the hurt.

Re: The facts of Life
Clinton (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 20:23 GMT

there is not one person in a 25 mile radius I could call a friend. Who do i give love to exactly? My
computer maybe, or my drum machine perhaps. Come to think of it, what is love except an idea for
which there is no proof? Anyway, this is all bullshit, i'm off to the blacknes

Re: The facts of Life
h™ (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 21:17 GMT

If the only outlook for the moment is via the computer, then so be it.
It got me this far.
To go further takes some effort. I know that raises difficulties, but it's only by finding ways
round these, rather than complaining about them, that one can prevail and eventually have a
tolerable life.

Re: The facts of Life
Suiii (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 21:38 GMT

(((((Clint))))))

After being virtually housebound for a year and a half I have a hell of a lot to thank my computer
for. I've made many new friends when other 'friends' were too busy to care, it's kept me in
contact with the world, and best of all it helped me see that being gay was not something to be
worried about, because there are more of us than we might think. I've now been out for a year,
getting my life back on track, and I know so many great people who without the PC and the internet,
I never would have met and loved.

Clint, feel free to mail me any time, lynzie@btinternet.com

Love and hugs to all the Boyz (and my fellow laydees!)

xxxxxxxxxx

Re: The facts of Life
Simon B (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 22:20 GMT

My story is pretty similer to Suiii's- I was lonely and sometimes miserable, until I got a computer,
then got on the internet and found this place which has been more help to me than I know since
coming out at the end of May. As long as you have the Blue Room, Clinton, you have us, and we're
here for you, or indeed anybody else.

Re: The facts of Life
Boatman (in the United Kingdom) 25 Dec 2000 at 22:46 GMT

((((((Clinton)))))) You have many friends in the BR who have all missed you recently. I remember too
how kind you were when I sought info on living in Eastbourne. If I can help you can find me at
Boater@btinternet.com.

Re: The facts of Life
Dave 26 Dec 2000 at 01:00 GMT

(((((((((Clinton))))))))))

While Christmas is a fun time for many people, I understand how lonely it can be when you're on your
own. In the distant past, there were a good few years when I spent Christmas in a very similar
situation. But it is only for a few days, it will very soon be over with, and difficult times
always mean there's something better on the horizon.

Try your best to be as positive as you can and start planning your new year's resolution right now -
to be utterly determined to do whatever it takes to find what you're looking for in life to make
yourself happy. Although it might be hellish difficult, I believe in you matey and I'm convinced
you've got what it takes to turn things around. So just make up your mind to prove that I'm right.

I really hope you're soon feeling better Clinton and I'll be thinking about you.

With lots of love,
Dave xxxx

Re: The facts of Life
Moloch (in Australia) 26 Dec 2000 at 04:08 GMT

Hi Clinton!

Sad to hear you're depressed...

It used to get me that way too until I made a very basic connection. So basic and fundamental that
we all miss it.

Here it comes!

To use your words - There is NO 'intended design'.

I don't care if you believe in gods, psychoses, mystic lines,chaos theory, Shirley Bassey or the
supremacy of all life; there is NO PURPOSE! Any other belief is mere superstition.

So when you realise - and finally accept - the utter randomness of life you are liberated to take
control of it and make your own decisions.

Society is a consensus which allows individuals to live together - or kill each other; love is a
choice not a bolt of lightning or a divine lonely hearts lottery.

Your life is your own to do with what you will.

If its not going the way you want it to, if you are not comfortable with your friendships and
society change - or at least make the attempt.

You are no more destined to be lonely with a computer than Jesus was to be nailed to a gibbet, you
have no more 'right' to life than the turkeys which we slaughter in their millions - unless we as a
society will it.

Get over the self-pity darl, it never helped me and I don't think its helping you. Maybe you should
get off the treadmill - drop your current reality like a sack of rancid entrails and bum around
Europe for a few years sleeping rough. Try becoming a ruthless, money-crazed fuckwit like those you
most despise. Wear high-heels and a falsy at your next tutorial and dare the bastards to say a
word.

Good soil is a myth, the greatest life grows where the soil is poor. The rainforests become deserts
after clearing because the life is within them; WA's heaths are the most florally diverse because
the soil is sand and coral reefs are beacons of life in poor waters.

Cold comfort from a cold heart this Xmas darl - Sorry.

Feel free to abuse me here or at moloch65@gay.com

Moloch xxx